The Camberwell Society

Society for those living, working or interested in Camberwell

The Planning sub-committee reviews all SE5 planning applications received by Southwark and Lambeth Councils that have an impact on the Camberwell area. Applications are reviewed to ensure that they are appropriate to their surroundings and that sufficient information has been submitted with the application.
Members comments received prior to discussion at the next meeting are always recorded and considered

Regularly we host developers and their designers with their proposals both at pre and at planning application stage and review their proposals and provide considered suggestions.

Through the work of the sub-committee, the Society has been instrumental in saving many buildings of note including Addington Square, Denmark Hill Station and part of Windsor Walk. The Society has also been instrumental in influencing new development to make a positive contribution to the area, and works with local residents and tenants groups where there are common issues. The current composition of the Planning sub-committee is: Tim Gaymer, Anthony Kyrke-Smith, Valerie Balleny, Elizabeth Borowiecka, Jason Leech, Robert Potz, Jonathan Hunt and Sandra Simpson.
Potential new members are welcome to attend a meeting as an observer initially. The Society is currently under represented by members from the Myatt Fields and Brunswick Park areas.

Meetings of the Planning sub-committee are usually held in the evenings at monthly intervals.

If you wish to contribute to the work please contact planning@camberwellsociety.org.uk

21/AP/1651/2 ​75-77 SOUTHAMPTON WAY, LONDON SE5 7SW


Change of use from a 11-unit HMO (Hostel) (Sui Generis) into 6 self-contained flats (C3 Use Class), (comprising 2 x one bedroom flats at Lower Ground Floor level, 2 x one bedroom flats at Ground Floor Level, 1 x one bedroom flat at First Floor Level, 1 x one bedroom flat at Second Floor Level.

This application shows scant regard for the historic and architectural value of the house and compounds the adverse effects of the original ill-judged conversion to an HMO.

The Camberwell Society urges Southwark Council to take this opportunity to carry out a conversion which properly respects the building’s historic value and the principles of good quality domestic design.

The original conversion to an HMO involved the destruction of much of the building’s historic character, internal and external: an inappropriate extension, unsuitable replacement windows, and loss of internal features including plaster mouldings, doors, skirtings, architraves and other joinery.

The current application fails to rectify these shortcomings and adds new items to the list: Poorly designed flat layouts, bedrooms and open plan living/kitchen/dining rooms which fall below the space guidelines set by the Southwark Residential Design Standards, a flat which has only a single bedroom, a flat with a dining room remote from its living room and kitchen, kitchen layouts and fittings grouped in such a way as to make them un-useable, bathrooms which apparently have no baths or showers and no landscaping proposals or arrangements for bicycle and rubbish storage.

The Design and Access statement claims to be following the guidelines which emphasise “the importance of bringing forward housing whilst protecting the character of our places, including their local historic context and creating places where people want to live” This is absolutely not what this application does.

The Camberwell Society objects to this application for the above reasons

1-13 SOUTHAMPTON WAY, SE5 7SW

Application Reference & Link: 21/AP/0451

The Camberwell Society provides an objection to this proposal. Whilst the Principle of Development is supported as outlined below, the proposed height of the development cannot be supported.

The proposal includes redevelopment of a brownfield site on Metropolitan Open Land, to replace an industrial use. Camberwell Society would object to residential development on greenfield Metropolitan Open Land in principle; however, the proposal of 100% affordable residential development and public amenity (café) to replace an incongruous industrial use (a brownfield site, which detracts from local character and nearby Conservation Areas) is deemed to be of substantive public benefit to override concerns of re-development of brownfield MOL.

The principle of development on the site is supported, if and only if a large portion of the site is gifted to Southwark Council to incorporate into Burgess Park (through s106 agreement). Currently 34% of the site is to be gifted to Southwark Council, the boundary of which will provide a more coherent and rational park edge to the east of the site. This condition for development is accepted.

The Camberwell Society strongly objects to the scale of development regarding overall height, with a view that any development immediately adjacent to the park should be 6 storeys (18 m) as a maximum. This is to ensure development does not exceed the height of the mature tree line, and therefore does not appear overbearing to the park. The adjacent residential properties to the south are 3 storeys, and Camberwell Society consider a building of twice the context height to constitute a tall building. Camberwell Society argue strongly that this location is not acceptable for a tall building.

The proposed height of seven storeys would set a precedent of development of tall buildings in this location, to which the Camberwell Society strongly objects.

The Camberwell Society welcome the incorporation of a public amenity (café) at ground floor. As a condition for development, Camberwell Society would like to see a public 'water-point' provided, as well as publicly accessible toilets (either as part of the café, or ancillary to it).

The Camberwell Society welcome the high UGF (0.48) of the development and request a condition (should permission be granted) to ensure this is maintained through detailed design and construction. Camberwell Society would request that a further condition is applied to the landscape design, to ensure that a high-quality, and highly bio-diverse landscape which seamlessly ties into the existing park is delivered.

Conclusion

The Camberwell Society supports the principle of development, when considering the 100% affordable housing offer combined with the regeneration of a brownfield site and the gifting of 34% of the site to be incorporated into Burgess Park. The Camberwell Society objects strongly to the height of development, which would constitute a tall building. Development should be restricted to 6 storeys maximum in this location (and all sites immediately adjacent to Burgess Park).

The Camberwell Society therefore objects to this proposal.

21/AP/1648 93 GROVE LANE LONDON SE5

Change of use from a 14 unit HMO (Hostel) (Sui Generis) into 5no self-contained Flats (C3 Use Class), (comprising 1 x three bedroom Maisonette at lower Ground Floor and Ground Floor level, 1 x Two bedroom flat at Ground Floor Level, 1 x One bedroom flat at First Floor Level, 1 x One bedroom flat at First floor level and 1 x two bedroom flat Second Floor level.

This application shows scant regard for the historic and architectural value of the house and compounds the adverse effects of the original ill-judged conversion to an HMO.

The Camberwell Society urges Southwark Council to take this opportunity to carry out a conversion which properly respects the building’s historic value and the principles of good quality domestic design.

The original conversion to an HMO involved the destruction of much of the building’s historic character, internal and external: an inappropriate extension, unsuitable replacement windows, rainwater and soil pipes fixed to the front of the building, and loss of internal features including plaster mouldings, doors, skirtings, architraves and other joinery.

The current application fails to rectify these shortcomings and adds new items to the list: Poorly designed flat layouts, rooms which fall below the space guidelines set by the Southwark Residential Design Standards, lobbies which take corners out of otherwise rectangular rooms unnecessarily, a fire escape which has been retained but access to it blocked off, two flats with only single bedrooms, a flat with a dining room recess that has no windows, a maisonette without a staircase to link its two floors, kitchen layouts and fittings grouped in such a way as to make them un-useable and no landscaping proposals or arrangements for bicycle and rubbish storage

The Camberwell Society objects to this application for the above reasons

21/AP/1254/5: 5-7 COTTAGE GREEN AND 69 SOUTHAMPTON WAY LONDON SOUTHWARK SE5 7ST

Demolition of existing structures, including removal and alterations to the flank elevation of grade II listed no.

73 Southampton Way, and construction of two buildings fronting onto Southampton Way (4 to 6 storeys) and

Cottage Green (4 to 7 storeys) comprising 55 residential units and 687sqm GEA (commercial units for Class

E and F uses, associated roof terraces, landscaping and public realm enhancements, refuse storage, and

cycle and car parking.


The proposal would be a departure from saved policy 1.2 of the Southwark Plan (2007) owing to the

proposed provision of residential units within a preferred industrial location. The proposal would be within the

setting of the grade II listed buildings 1, 2 and 3 Cottage Green and 73,75 and 77 Southampton Way.

Listed building consent application for the demolition and external alterations to parts within the site that

are attached to the flank elevation of grade II listed no. 73 Southampton Way.

This proposal takes its lead from the Tibbalds Local Development Study October 2020 and has incorporated:

Pedestrian and vehicular routes which join up with the routes through the Parkhouse Street development sites, an important feature for the whole area.

A small public open space at the junction of the routes

Robust elevations and landscaping onto Southampton Way and Cottage Green to make attractive settings for the vintage and heritage buildings adjacent

Active frontages with openings and entrances along the proposed new routes and to address the public space

The new frontage alongside 67-71 Southampton Way continues the scale and rhythm of the existing listed terrace with a flourish on the corner, which reflects the individualistic building at the other end of the terrace.

The Cottage Green elevation is more problematic. The 4 storey block is overpowering in scale compared with the 2 storey cottage adjacent and the terrace rises very quickly to 7 storeys as it approaches the public square. The numbers of storeys proposed for the Peachtree site has been taken as justification for the density of development on this site, but this is an unreliable guide because it represents an unacceptable overdevelopment itself.

The restricted nature of the site has created challenges for the design of the two blocks, A and B facing Southampton Way and Cottage Green respectively.

Many of the flats are single aspect, with views along one side of both blocks being limited by adjacent development, actual and potential, and very limited access to amenity space at ground level.

There is communal and private open space at ground and on upper floor levels and the blocks offer active frontages onto the routes through the site, which is welcome.

The shared pedestrian/vehicular route alongside Block B is stated as 5.5m wide along part of its length, which is inadequate for its proposed use. It should be wider and also restricted to one-way traffic, linking thorough to the Parkhouse Street routes to the north. Some arrangements will be needed for deliveries to Block A, possibly in the public square.

The appearance of the flats is extremely bland, with some small concessions on matching materials on the Cottage Green and Southampton Way elevations. These buildings will be on routes leading to what we hope will be a vibrant new quarter for Camberwell – a little liveliness and colour would be welcome.

The Camberwell Society objects to this application for the above reasons.

https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/simpleSearchResults.do?action=firstPage


20/AP/2768: MAPOTHER HOUSE MAUDSLEY HOSPITAL DE CRESPIGNY PARK LONDON SOUTHWARK SE5 8AF

Demolition of the Michael Rutter Centre, Mapother House and Professorial Building and construction of 3 new buildings fronting De Crespigny Park ranging from 5-8 storeys plus plant to create 187 one, two and three bedroom dwellings (use class C3). Creation of a nursery facility at ground floor level complete with secure outside play space. Creation of communal gardens, play areas for children, cycle parking and other associated alterations and improvements to infrastructure. Creation of a new pedestrian walkway to the east of the site with stairs and platform lift to improve connections to De Crespigny Park.


RE CONSULTATION DUE TO
- Amended description (increase in size of the nursery, reduction in number of residential units)
- Additional and revised transport related information
- Revised construction management plan
- Amended design (internal layout, fenestration and balconies)
- Amended landscape proposals
- Additional public realm details
- Additional technical reports (fire strategy/daylight & sunlight)

The April 2021 amendments to the above application have not addressed the main reservations put forward by the Camberwell Society during the original consultation. These were:

The drawings presented do not show the proposed development in relation to the building line and the height of the other buildings on the south side of de Crespigny Park and it is therefore impossible to judge whether the scale of the new buildings is appropriate.

The double height windows alongside the pavement and the dark colouring of the building materials employed give the buildings an oppressive appearance which is untypical of the buildings in remainder of the street.

Parking for residents and visitors to the nearby hospitals would be a useful addition.

Some of the proposed accommodation should be reserved for medical staff working locally.

In conclusion the Camberwell Society objects to this application.

https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/simpleSearchResults.do?action=firstPage

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